Film You Last Watched

Subject: Re: Film You Last Watched Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:09 am

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Subject: Re: Film You Last Watched Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:35 pm

Stan54 wrote:

My God... WHY?! You really do seem to have a massive soft spot for Cage. I bet you're real excited about 'Bangkok Dangerous'. Laughing

Subject: Re: Film You Last Watched Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:48 pm

Why?

Because it was sitting out at the library.

Awful movie. Not as awful as, say American Beauty or Touch of Evil, but definitely not good.

I think Cage has been great in some great films. Raising Arizona (the best Coen Bros film by far), Vampire's Kiss, Peggy Sue Got Married, Moonstruck, Red Rock West, and Leaving Las Vegas.

And some enjoyable, if not great, films like Guarding Tess, Honeymoon in Vegas, The Rock, Face Off, 8mm, Bringing Out the Dead, Matchstick Men, Lord of War, World Trade Center.

All in all, as impressive a list as Deniro, Pacino, etc.

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Subject: Re: Film You Last Watched Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:59 pm

Stan54 wrote:

All in all, as impressive a list as Deniro, Pacino, etc.

ummmmmm.... No.

Subject: Re: Film You Last Watched Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:00 pm

About the 5th time I've seen it. I like the film a lot, some very funny scenes. It can be a tad boring at times, but generally pretty good.

Subject: Re: Film You Last Watched Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:13 pm

twood50785 wrote:

Stan54 wrote:

All in all, as impressive a list as Deniro, Pacino, etc.

ummmmmm.... No.

Sure, a long list of OK and quite worthless films done for paychecks peppered with the occasional example of greatness. Same thing.

And as for Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, I love that movie. I think Sam Rockwell is one of the best actors of his generation, WAY WAY WAY better than, for example, Sean Penn. Rockwell can play anything. Look at him in that film, then in The Assassination of Jesse James, then in Galaxy Quest ("Crewman Number 6"), in Charlie's Angels..... At the end of "Confessions..." he seems to actually channel Chuck Barris when he does the Gong Show stuff.

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Subject: Re: Film You Last Watched Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:17 pm

Cage is okay if he's playing a wacky out there character, but anything else and he's usually terrible. You think Penn is bad!? Compared to Cage he's Lawrence Olivier. Cage has got to be the most annoying actor that has ever lived... it can be fun to watch his stupid movies and take the piss, but generally... awful. I often find myself laughing out loud when I really shouldnt be when I'm watching him... I saw 8mm recently... it was hilarious...

Anyway, Some brilliant or at least not great but enjoyable fims that Pacino has appeared in:

The Panic in Needle Park
The Godfather
Serpico
Godfather II
Dog Day Afternoon
...And Justice for All
Scarface
Sea of Love
Dick Tracy
Glengarry Glen Ross
Scent of a Woman
Carlito's Way
Heat
Donnie Brasco
City Hall
Looking for Richard
The Insider
Any Given Sunday
Angels in America
The Merchant of Venice
...Im missing a few

Some brilliant or at least not great but enjoyable fims that De Niro has appeared in:

Mean Streets
Godfather II
Taxi Driver
Deer Hunter
The Last Tycoon
New York, New York
Raging Bull
The King of Comedy
Once Upon a Time in America
The Mission
True Confessions
Goodfellas
Backdraft
A Bronx Tale
Casino
Heat
Sleepers
Cop Land
Jackie Brown
Wag the Dog
Ronin
Meet the Parents
The Good Shepherd
...Im missing quite a few.

Those lists are a hellova lot better than Cage's... And more importantly, they have never stooped as low as 'The Wicker Man' or... well you know, the list is LOOOONG.

I agree about Sam Rockwell... He's excellent. Don't you think he looks a lot like Sid Vicious?

He also looks quite a lot like Mike Myers at times as well (not the one from Halloween!). But yes, Rockwell is great.

Subject: Re: Film You Last Watched Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:40 pm

I've just checked the tv guide... Captain Correlli's Mandolin is on tonight. Another excellent Cage performance! lol!

Subject: Re: Film You Last Watched Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:48 pm

twood50785 wrote:

About the 5th time I've seen it. I like the film a lot, some very funny scenes. It can be a tad boring at times, but generally pretty good.

i was surprised how much i liked it as well. another worthwhile clooney effort:

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Subject: Re: Film You Last Watched Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:51 pm

also sam rockwell's film debut is in this highly underrated movie which seymour cassel (of cassavettes fame) steals...

if you see it, make sure it's the black and white version.

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Subject: Re: Film You Last Watched Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:54 pm

Laddered Lights wrote:

also sam rockwell's film debut is in this highly underrated movie which seymour cassel (of cassavettes fame) steals...

if you see it, make sure it's the black and white version.

What year is that film? Because he is in Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles (great film!) which came out in 1990. He's one of the bad guys!

Subject: Re: Film You Last Watched Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:05 pm

twood50785 wrote:

What year is that film? Because he is in Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles (great film!) which came out in 1990. He's one of the bad guys!

91-92? he's also in the royal tenenbaums. he's hilarious in minnie and moskowitz and cannes man, but 'in the soup' is the one as far as i'm concerned.

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Subject: Re: Film You Last Watched Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:31 pm

twood50785 wrote:

Cage is okay if he's playing a wacky out there character, but anything else and he's usually terrible. You think Penn is bad!? Compared to Cage he's Lawrence Olivier.

Poppycock.

Compared to Penn, David Spade is Laurence Olivier. Laughing

As far as bad films and performances, lest us not forget Deniro's turn as Satan, aka "Louis Cypher" in Angel Heart or as "Fearless Leader in The Adventures of Rocky & Bullwinkle affraid

or masterpieces like Analyze This, Analyze That, Meet the Parents and [douible shudder] Meet the Folkers. affraid

Nor should we forget Pacino's turn as Satan AND Keanu Reeves' dad affraid

in The Devil's Advocate. affraid

or his role in the never-to-be-forgoptten BenLo triumph, Gigli affraid

And nobody associated with Godfather III can ever make fun of anybody else.

Ever.

At their best, if you took the best 5 films by all 3, Cage would be in third, sure. But that's in part because people worship all this "heavy" "DRAMA" crapola more that the far more difficult comedies and Rasising Arizona - as a film and for Cage and Holly Hunter's performances - can go toe to toe with The Godfather et.al.

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Subject: Re: Film You Last Watched Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:07 pm

Laddered Lights wrote:

twood50785 wrote:

What year is that film? Because he is in Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles (great film!) which came out in 1990. He's one of the bad guys!

91-92? he's also in the royal tenenbaums. he's hilarious in minnie and moskowitz and cannes man, but 'in the soup' is the one as far as i'm concerned.

Okay, I think we're definitely talking about 2 different people!

Subject: Re: Film You Last Watched Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:11 pm

Stan54 wrote:

As far as bad films and performances, lest us not forget Deniro's turn as Satan, aka "Louis Cypher" in Angel Heart or as "Fearless Leader in The Adventures of Rocky & Bullwinkle affraid

or masterpieces like Analyze This, Analyze That, Meet the Parents and [douible shudder] Meet the Folkers. affraid

Nor should we forget Pacino's turn as Satan AND Keanu Reeves' dad affraid

in The Devil's Advocate. affraid

or his role in the never-to-be-forgoptten BenLo triumph, Gigli affraid

And nobody associated with Godfather III can ever make fun of anybody else.

This is an outrage! None of these films (including 'Rocky&Bullwinkle) are anywhere near as bad as: Captain Corelli's Mandolin, National Treasure, The Weather Man, The Wicker Man, Ghost Rider etc etc etc etc ete etc etc... I think you know it, you're just trying to wind me up! Very Happy

(I havent seen World Trade Centre, I can only imagine how terrible it is).