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PostSubject: Re: Koerner, Ray & Glover   Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:38 am

I see I made a typo--"One Foot In The Groove" (the KR&G comeback album) was not from 1967--it's from 1997.

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PostSubject: Re: Koerner, Ray & Glover   Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:48 am

Mr. Glover is the only one to make it into No Direction Home as I recall, he seems like a swell fellow.

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PostSubject: Re: Koerner, Ray & Glover   Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:01 am

I think Glover stayed in touch with bobo more than the other too. He had an advance copy of "Nashville Skyline" that he played on late night radio long before it was released. He's cooler than a bushel of cucumbers. He studied sitar with--I think--Nikel [sp?] Banerjee.

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PostSubject: Re: Koerner, Ray & Glover   Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:04 am

Correction -- Pandit Nikhil Banerjee (October 14, 1931 – January 27, 1986), according to wiki.

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PostSubject: Re: Koerner, Ray & Glover   Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:08 pm

This is what i consider to be the good version of "Days of 49," with Willie Murphy on squeezebox:

http://rapidshare.com/files/246436559/06._Days_of__49.MP3.html

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PostSubject: Re: Koerner, Ray & Glover   Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:40 pm


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PostSubject: Re: Koerner, Ray & Glover   Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:53 pm

It's a very charming version but better than Dylan's? I don't even think Mrs. Pinz would agree with you on that. The notion that anyone could be better than Dylan at ANYTHING seems to me to be very quaint. Plus I like the piano on the Self Portrait cut (probably Dylan?)

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PostSubject: Re: Koerner, Ray & Glover   Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:00 am

For a bleeding heart liberal, Mrs. Pinz has a remarkably low opinion of the Bobster. She thinks that some of his early songs are nice for groups like the girls scouts to sing around campfires, but that Bob himself should be banned from singing anything.

By "best" I meant better than Koerner's later version. I can't compare either version to Bob's, because I haven't heard "Self Portrait" since before the dawn of time, and I don't care to, either.

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PostSubject: Re: Koerner, Ray & Glover   Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:01 am

bounce bounce bounce

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PostSubject: Re: Koerner, Ray & Glover   Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:15 am

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I haven't heard "Self Portrait" since before the dawn of time, and I don't care to, either.



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PostSubject: Re: Koerner, Ray & Glover   Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:28 am

OK--I just listened to a sample of Bob's, and I'll say it's better than I remember (maybe because he's so much worse now?)

Is that a bass harmonica I hear in the accompaniment? Glover played one of those on "American Folk Songs," too.

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PostSubject: Re: Koerner, Ray & Glover   Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:38 pm

I think some of my negativity toward "Self Portrait" goes back to what a disappointment it was when it first came out. Many of us fans were still hoping he'd go back into the studio with Mike Bloomfield and Al Cooper and get back into the really good stuff. Nothing could have been a bigger letdown (for the likes of us) than "Self Portrait." Didn't Bob even say his intention at the time was to disappoint expectations?

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PostSubject: Re: Koerner, Ray & Glover   Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:07 pm

He threw a bunch of songs against the wall. Some of them stuck, and some of them didn't, but he included both varieties on the double record.

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PostSubject: Re: Koerner, Ray & Glover   Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:11 pm

"Blue Moon" and "The Boxer" are my worst memories of it.

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PostSubject: Re: Koerner, Ray & Glover   Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:37 pm

Koerner's like Dylan, except when he's not.

After a series of folky all-acoustic LPS, he made a radical change, performing with a rock band and recording the LP "Running, Jumping, Standing Still," that expanded the boundaries of Pop music at the time.

His fans were expecting more of the same at that point, but instead, what we got was a home recording not released by a major record company. The LP release--called "Music is Just A Bunch of Notes"--featured many of the same sidemen that appeared on the previous big-label LP, and the music pushed the envelope just as much as before, but it was produced with the lowest of low budgets.

Then, just when his fans were expecting his next project to be on the same musical trajectory as the previous two, he put out an LP called "Some American Folk Songs Like They Used To." This was a return to the all-acoustic folk tradition.

It strikes me that Koerner's career followed an arc very similar to Bob's in the 1960s. The two big differences were: no money and no promotion.

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