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Eddie Head Librarian

Gender: Number of posts: 2308 Registration date: 2008-07-30
 | Subject: Just how "English" are the Kinks? Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:04 pm | |
| Whenever I read plaudits about Ray Davies' songwriting- as I often do- they're almost always accompanied by a rider/qualification along the lines of: "well-observed and deeply felt vignettes of English suburban life". How true is this? What kind of resonance do site-specific songs like "Waterloo Sunset" or a climate-specific song like "Autumn Almanac" or time-and-place-specific songs like "Dedicated Follower of Fashion" have in far fields and foreign climes? Parochial? Universal? Both? _________________ The salmon-falls, the mackerel-crowded seas
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felix

Number of posts: 697 Registration date: 2009-06-19
 | Subject: Re: Just how "English" are the Kinks? Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:14 am | |
| No deep thought here, Eddie, just a passing 'thinks' bubble: Ray Davies's songs strike me as more of the music hall than of rock 'n' roll - and music hall was a pretty "English" - erm, what's the word I'm looking for, genre? form? Can I answer (for now), facetiously,  'neither'? (The Kinks were big favourites of a mod* workmate of mine in the mid 60s - who, incidentally, loaned me his newly-purchased Bob Dylan albums: first four, if I remember right - and set me off down a particular trail which I still follow erratically nearly half a century later) *EDIT: there's a pun in there - unintentional - my workmate was indeed a 'mod'; and we both worked for a particular department of state with a similar acronymic name. So it goes. _________________ I'm hoping for a computer game.
... or a pair of socks
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pinhedz Schrödinger's Hepcat

Number of posts: 4488 Registration date: 2008-04-28
 | Subject: Re: Just how "English" are the Kinks? Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:24 am | |
| To Minnesotans they sound like they are from a faraway land. And they talk funny--not like regular people. _________________ I don't do it for the money, babe. I do it to entertain people.-- Susan Boyle
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Woo!

Number of posts: 466 Registration date: 2009-06-22
 | Subject: Re: Just how "English" are the Kinks? Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:58 am | |
| I love Lola! The Kinks warned folks about oil addiction in the 70s and no one in power paid them any mind. There is a man under my bed, there's a little green (or is it yellow) man in my head... Yeah, I have no answer for ya Eddie. I want to be a Celluloid Hero. Because they don't feel any pain... |
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Eddie Head Librarian

Gender: Number of posts: 2308 Registration date: 2008-07-30
 | Subject: Re: Just how "English" are the Kinks? Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:55 am | |
| Mulling the whole matter over: In a way, it was a silly question. I've never surfed a roller in my life, but that doesn't debar me from admission to the world of the Beach Boys. Neither have I driven down Route 66, but I love the song. For that matter, I couldn't point out Ashtabula on a map to save my life. _________________ The salmon-falls, the mackerel-crowded seas
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Eddie Head Librarian

Gender: Number of posts: 2308 Registration date: 2008-07-30
 | Subject: Re: Just how "English" are the Kinks? Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:05 am | |
| About 5 years ago I heard part of an interview on BBC Radio 5 Live with Greil Marcus in which he was discussing "Waterloo Sunset", surely one of the best "Pop" songs ever written. Where can I read what Mr Marcus has to say about the Kinks? _________________ The salmon-falls, the mackerel-crowded seas
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Eddie Head Librarian

Gender: Number of posts: 2308 Registration date: 2008-07-30
 | Subject: Re: Just how "English" are the Kinks? Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:09 am | |
| 6 Denmark Terrace, birthplace of the Davies brothers. About as English suburban as it gets. _________________ The salmon-falls, the mackerel-crowded seas
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Eddie Head Librarian

Gender: Number of posts: 2308 Registration date: 2008-07-30
 | Subject: Re: Just how "English" are the Kinks? Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:13 am | |
| http://www.last.fm/music/The+Kinks You Really Got Me- The Kinks. _________________ The salmon-falls, the mackerel-crowded seas
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Eddie Head Librarian

Gender: Number of posts: 2308 Registration date: 2008-07-30
 | Subject: Re: Just how "English" are the Kinks? Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:21 am | |
| Ray Davies' autobiography X-Ray is a characteristically left-field production. The book is structured around the story of a young gun-slinging music journalistist who manages to obtain a rare interview with the notoriously cranky and reclusive Mr Davies; their dialogue becomes the substance of the book. Highly unusual and original, as you'd expect; certainly, a cut above most music biogs. Well worth reading. _________________ The salmon-falls, the mackerel-crowded seas
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Giant González Closed 3:00-3:15pm

Gender: Number of posts: 3998 Registration date: 2008-04-28
 | Subject: Re: Just how "English" are the Kinks? Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:07 pm | |
| | Eddie wrote: | I've never surfed a roller in my life, but that doesn't debar me from admission to the world of the Beach Boys. |
Neither has Brian Wilson! |
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felix

Number of posts: 697 Registration date: 2009-06-19
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Eddie Head Librarian

Gender: Number of posts: 2308 Registration date: 2008-07-30
 | Subject: Re: Just how "English" are the Kinks? Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:59 pm | |
| Ah yes, I have a copy of Mystery Train. Thanks for the nudge, felix. Marcus the Magus' words of wisdom on the Kinks must be buried somewhere in the endless, interminable appendices. _________________ The salmon-falls, the mackerel-crowded seas
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felix

Number of posts: 697 Registration date: 2009-06-19
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Eddie Head Librarian

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Woo!

Number of posts: 466 Registration date: 2009-06-22
 | Subject: Re: Just how "English" are the Kinks? Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:36 am | |
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