Worst Beatles Songs

Subject: Re: Worst Beatles Songs Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:43 pm

The Future wrote:

The Word wrote:

The fact that the LP isn't in their top 5 AND that they were only together for 7 years and none had hit 30 by the end...

I'm tired of this Sgt Pepper backlash. Of course it's in their Top 3 albums.

And all you wankers and tossers who think it's naff to have mellotrons, clarinets, and sitars on an album can go toss-wank off.

How the fuck-stick are Chuck Berry covers and Beep Beep Yeah superior to the mind-shattering brilliance of the Sgt Pepper Gravy Train?

Good post... I'm convinced.

Subject: Re: Worst Beatles Songs Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:58 pm

Okay guys, I'm willing to approach this with an open mind.

You know my opinion: Sgt. Pepper's is the most overrated anything produced in the Western 20th century. I think people like this because they were stoned and having their first immature sexual phantasies when this came out.
There's crap I like because in my head it's linked with certain places and times.
It's not the crap I like itself, it's a vague sense of nostalgia that comes with it.

Sgt. Pepper is the most clear example ever of this.
It's utter rubbish, infantile bullshit that nobody would listen to if it had been released by a Hongarian band back in '78. Of course, same thing goes for almost any great record ever released, but still.
Why I actually even own this thing on vinyl is beyond me.

But lots of people seem to think differently.
So, enlighten me!
Show me where this so-called brilliance is hiding on that record.
Give me one snippet of lyric that has even the vaguest touch of sense to it, one chord pattern that is truely sensational, one anything that's on this record that makes it so good.
I'm all ears.

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Subject: Re: Worst Beatles Songs Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:18 pm

andy1983 wrote:

Okay guys, I'm willing to approach this with an open mind.

You know my opinion: Sgt. Pepper's is the most overrated anything produced in the Western 20th century. I think people like this because they were stoned and having their first immature sexual phantasies when this came out.
There's crap I like because in my head it's linked with certain places and times.
It's not the crap I like itself, it's a vague sense of nostalgia that comes with it.

Sgt. Pepper is the most clear example ever of this.
It's utter rubbish, infantile bullshit that nobody would listen to if it had been released by a Hongarian band back in '78. Of course, same thing goes for almost any great record ever released, but still.
Why I actually even own this thing on vinyl is beyond me.

But lots of people seem to think differently.
So, enlighten me!
Show me where this so-called brilliance is hiding on that record.
Give me one snippet of lyric that has even the vaguest touch of sense to it, one chord pattern that is truely sensational, one anything that's on this record that makes it so good.
I'm all ears.

I don't care if you like it or not.

Your not liking it doesn't diminish it one tiny little bit so far as I can see.

And anyway, Tom Waits, the Sex Pistols and the [shudder] Pogues are clearly the most overrated crap that passeth for music of the last 12 centuries, which would include the 20th.

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Subject: Re: Worst Beatles Songs Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:19 pm

It is a great album, although I can't say that I listen to it all that much.

I think the following are all great songs:

Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Getting Better
Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds
She's Leaving Home (probably my favourite on the album)
A Day in the Life
Withing You Without You
Fixing a Hole
Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite!

That's pretty much the whole album, and the rest of the songs are very good too IMO. The Sgt Pepper reprise is a bit pointless I guess. 'With A Little Help from My Friends' is not a song I'm very keen on, but its still good.... It's just one of those Beatles songs that can get very annoying quickly... Possibly the same for 'When I'm 64'.

Subject: Re: Worst Beatles Songs Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:31 pm

twood50785 wrote:

Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite!

Compared to that Metal Machine Music is straight A glorious easy-listening material to me!

That thing is horrible!

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Subject: Re: Worst Beatles Songs Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:40 pm

andy1983 wrote:

Metal Machine Music.... That thing is horrible!

Yes, I'd forgotten.

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Subject: Re: Worst Beatles Songs Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:41 pm

Stan54 wrote:

andy1983 wrote:

Metal Machine Music.... That thing is horrible!

Yes, I'd forgotten.

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Subject: Re: Worst Beatles Songs Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:32 am

The Future wrote:

Nope. What art a culture does or doesn't value has real consequences.

But the kind of thing going on here is just a past time like lawn darts.

And only a capitalist pig would measure pursuits by how "productive" they are. Tosser.

Quote:

I'm completely incapable of ranking creative works.

Is that because it is unproductive, unrealistic, because opinions hold no intrensic value, because there is no universal standard, is it because art is art because it couldn't be explained in an essay with footnotes?

And as so far as being 'Accurate', only someone's mind which has become 'square' would say such a thing. Mathematically accurate? Philosophically accurate? Homogeneuously accurate?
Are you desperate for facts stanny boy? Do you think they exist here, in this world? In the Macro and Micro? Do you think the mindset of the population has come any farther than: "If it floats it is Evil and if it sinks it is good?"

'Art as competition' is a futile concern whether Stan or The Future believes it or not.
No doubt, both of them colored in the lines when they were children.
Why don't you 'Accuately' try to prove that Help is a better song than Why don't we Do it in the Road?

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Subject: Re: Worst Beatles Songs Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:16 am

"Stanny Boy"?

Lick my asshole clean Rhoney Boy.

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Subject: Re: Worst Beatles Songs Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:28 am

I listened to Sgt. Peppers once and never felt the need to listen to it again. Maybe I'll put it on again sometime soon...

Subject: Re: Worst Beatles Songs Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:36 am

I've held out posting on this thread for the simple reason that I cannot think of any real dogs in The Beatles catalog. Even Maxwell's Silver Hammer is listenable - yes! I'm not at all saying that everything they realeased was of an exceptional standard - but there's nothing in the stuff that was realeased in their lifespan as a group that I go "That's reallt fucking horrible" to. Maybe a mild "Bleuggh" now and again but not much more.

And for the record: Ob-la-di Ob-la-da is afucking great tune!

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Subject: Re: Worst Beatles Songs Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:28 pm

Bullfrog wrote:

I've held out posting on this thread for the simple reason that I cannot think of any real dogs in The Beatles catalog. Even Maxwell's Silver Hammer is listenable - yes! I'm not at all saying that everything they realeased was of an exceptional standard - but there's nothing in the stuff that was realeased in their lifespan as a group that I go "That's reallt fucking horrible" to. Maybe a mild "Bleuggh" now and again but not much more.

And for the record: Ob-la-di Ob-la-da is afucking great tune!

The story is that there was an older blck guy in Londin who used "OO BLA DEE" as a kind f catch phrase. I have to think that it was a reference to the 1940s bee-bop Dizzy Gillespie song "In The Land Of Oobladee."

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Subject: Re: Worst Beatles Songs Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:50 pm

The Original Rhone wrote:

Is that because it is unproductive, unrealistic, because opinions hold no intrensic value, because there is no universal standard, is it because art is art because it couldn't be explained in an essay with footnotes?

And as so far as being 'Accurate', only someone's mind which has become 'square' would say such a thing. Mathematically accurate? Philosophically accurate? Homogeneuously accurate?
Are you desperate for facts stanny boy? Do you think they exist here, in this world? In the Macro and Micro? Do you think the mindset of the population has come any farther than: "If it floats it is Evil and if it sinks it is good?"

'Art as competition' is a futile concern whether Stan or The Future believes it or not.
No doubt, both of them colored in the lines when they were children.
Why don't you 'Accuately' try to prove that Help is a better song than Why don't we Do it in the Road?

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Subject: Re: Worst Beatles Songs Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:21 am

Stan54 wrote:

"Stanny Boy"?

Lick my asshole clean Rhoney Boy.

So, your asshole isn't clean? Have your tried googling 'Sanitary habits'? Proper wiping techinques?
I'm a helper, but I tend help those that try to help themselves.
And 'Rhoney Boy'? Are you copying me?
You seem so uptight that I doubt that anyone could find your anus without a GPS locator. Cheerio.

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Subject: Re: Worst Beatles Songs Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:10 am

I don't think Rocky Raccoon is very good.

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